Comments on: i changed my mind–gimme gimme gimme http://www.mudphudder.com/2009/04/i-changed-my-mind-gimme-gimme-gimme/ an academic medicine weblog Fri, 18 May 2012 03:06:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: physsci http://www.mudphudder.com/2009/04/i-changed-my-mind-gimme-gimme-gimme/comment-page-1/#comment-3035 physsci Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:43:35 +0000 http://www.mudphudder.com/?p=2915#comment-3035 Gotcha. Well, you know the situation better than I do and you also have a few years on me in this marathon of an academic program...check back in a 4-5 years and I'll probably have an outlook that's more in line with yours. Gotcha. Well, you know the situation better than I do and you also have a few years on me in this marathon of an academic program…check back in a 4-5 years and I’ll probably have an outlook that’s more in line with yours.

]]> By: mudphudder http://www.mudphudder.com/2009/04/i-changed-my-mind-gimme-gimme-gimme/comment-page-1/#comment-3027 mudphudder Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:21:08 +0000 http://www.mudphudder.com/?p=2915#comment-3027 Thanks for your comment, Physsci. There are reasons why I didn't fight tooth and nail on this one--not just because I didn't feel like fighting. I actually wrote a <a href="http://www.mudphudder.com/2009/04/academicians-are-pussies/" rel="nofollow">recent post </a>on SixtyHurtz' comment because I think you have to pick and choose your battles rather than adopt a policy of fighting everyone. In this case there were a number of factors that caused me to back off after much thought and weighing cost/benefit. Over the course of the last 8 years, there have been a number of episodes where I have engaged in confrontations--some smart decisions, some not on my part. Over time I think I've established a reasonable cost/benefit analysis algorithm I run through in my head when I decide whether or not to get into a confrontation. In this case, I did have a private word with PI after the fact but just didn't feel like it was necessary to fight with the RA (which I knew would get very petty very fast) in front of the PI. Thanks for your comment, Physsci. There are reasons why I didn’t fight tooth and nail on this one–not just because I didn’t feel like fighting. I actually wrote a recent post on SixtyHurtz’ comment because I think you have to pick and choose your battles rather than adopt a policy of fighting everyone. In this case there were a number of factors that caused me to back off after much thought and weighing cost/benefit. Over the course of the last 8 years, there have been a number of episodes where I have engaged in confrontations–some smart decisions, some not on my part. Over time I think I’ve established a reasonable cost/benefit analysis algorithm I run through in my head when I decide whether or not to get into a confrontation. In this case, I did have a private word with PI after the fact but just didn’t feel like it was necessary to fight with the RA (which I knew would get very petty very fast) in front of the PI.

]]> By: physsci http://www.mudphudder.com/2009/04/i-changed-my-mind-gimme-gimme-gimme/comment-page-1/#comment-3026 physsci Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:07:48 +0000 http://www.mudphudder.com/?p=2915#comment-3026 Mudphudder, I have to say, I think you went a little too soft on this one. While I don't second SixtyHurtz' tone, I do think this was something you should have fought tooth-and-nail over, especially considering you put four months into the project after it was dropped by the RA. Further, if your PI is really your friend, why do you think he/she wouldn't get behind you if all the facts were put on the table? I think it's good to be concerned about avoiding/minimizing conflict in the lab, but not at the sake of one's work (the work is why you're there, after all, not the friends). Personally, if I knew I was making good progress on the project, I'd tell the RA that she shouldn't have dropped it four months ago. Mudphudder, I have to say, I think you went a little too soft on this one. While I don’t second SixtyHurtz’ tone, I do think this was something you should have fought tooth-and-nail over, especially considering you put four months into the project after it was dropped by the RA. Further, if your PI is really your friend, why do you think he/she wouldn’t get behind you if all the facts were put on the table? I think it’s good to be concerned about avoiding/minimizing conflict in the lab, but not at the sake of one’s work (the work is why you’re there, after all, not the friends). Personally, if I knew I was making good progress on the project, I’d tell the RA that she shouldn’t have dropped it four months ago.

]]> By: SixtyHurtz http://www.mudphudder.com/2009/04/i-changed-my-mind-gimme-gimme-gimme/comment-page-1/#comment-2905 SixtyHurtz Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:12:57 +0000 http://www.mudphudder.com/?p=2915#comment-2905 You're a total pussy and judging by the comments above, that's the norm in academia. There is no justice in the world and there are no other lives where people get their karmic reward. You need to have the courage to tell people where to get off here and now, that's the only way to beat the a-holes. You’re a total pussy and judging by the comments above, that’s the norm in academia.

There is no justice in the world and there are no other lives where people get their karmic reward. You need to have the courage to tell people where to get off here and now, that’s the only way to beat the a-holes.

]]> By: mudphudder http://www.mudphudder.com/2009/04/i-changed-my-mind-gimme-gimme-gimme/comment-page-1/#comment-2846 mudphudder Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:16:39 +0000 http://www.mudphudder.com/?p=2915#comment-2846 Welcome to academics. Sometimes I feel like I get burned a lot too but then I see the same thing happening just as often to many others, so I am now settling into the sad reality that this just may be the baseline getting-screwed rate in academics... Welcome to academics. Sometimes I feel like I get burned a lot too but then I see the same thing happening just as often to many others, so I am now settling into the sad reality that this just may be the baseline getting-screwed rate in academics…

]]> By: MitoScientist http://www.mudphudder.com/2009/04/i-changed-my-mind-gimme-gimme-gimme/comment-page-1/#comment-2829 MitoScientist Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:27:26 +0000 http://www.mudphudder.com/?p=2915#comment-2829 Dang mudphudder, you sure do get burned by academia often! Sorry to hear about the project getting snatched away. As a hopeful future mudphud, it definitely makes me think about how to conduct my current research, and also projects in the future. Here's to A-holes getting theirs in the long run, if there's any justice in the world. Dang mudphudder, you sure do get burned by academia often! Sorry to hear about the project getting snatched away. As a hopeful future mudphud, it definitely makes me think about how to conduct my current research, and also projects in the future. Here’s to A-holes getting theirs in the long run, if there’s any justice in the world.

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