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	<title>Comments on: season of giving comes to a close</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mudphudder</title>
		<link>http://www.mudphudder.com/2008/12/season-of-giving-comes-to-a-close/comment-page-1/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>mudphudder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andrew-- You bring up a really good point.  Give me a day or two to think about it and I'll leave a post in response over the weekend (I'll shoot for saturday but I have to go into work then, so it might be sunday morning).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andrew&#8211; You bring up a really good point.  Give me a day or two to think about it and I&#8217;ll leave a post in response over the weekend (I&#8217;ll shoot for saturday but I have to go into work then, so it might be sunday morning).</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.mudphudder.com/2008/12/season-of-giving-comes-to-a-close/comment-page-1/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mudphudder,

I was wondering if you have any opinions on intellectual property, specifically from the vantage point of a graduate student...
When I started with my department, one of the orientation meetings emphasized the university's controlling stake in EVERYTHING that may be produced or derived from peon graduate students during their tenure.  That's all fine and good (the uni gets a big cut compared to the PI), but they neglected to discuss whether there are any baseline expectations that grad students can count on if their work is patented, etc.  One project that I've been developing with my PI for two years (mouse breedings/homemade protein production/vaccinations) may have finally generated a novel gene product that would be utilized by my PI in a clinial trial.  Given that he already has a few previous patents, I'm guessing that he would move to patent this discovery as well.  If we are indeed so lucky, I would hope to be included as a partial owner/stakeholder.  Really, though, I have no idea what to expect.  Given all the leg-work, troubleshooting, and hundreds of hours contributed from my end (with zero contriubtions from other grad students, post-docs, or technicians), it would be hard to see this whisked away from me.  Your entry on work-sharing vs. author-sharing was funny, but it left me wondering - do graduate students have rights beyond the good graces of their PI?  Are there academic or, dare I say, legal precedents for conflicts over ownership?  My worst fear is that the academic hierarchy has jurisdiction to crush those on the bottom rung.... 
(Does this qualify as the record longest post on your blog?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mudphudder,</p>
<p>I was wondering if you have any opinions on intellectual property, specifically from the vantage point of a graduate student&#8230;<br />
When I started with my department, one of the orientation meetings emphasized the university&#8217;s controlling stake in EVERYTHING that may be produced or derived from peon graduate students during their tenure.  That&#8217;s all fine and good (the uni gets a big cut compared to the PI), but they neglected to discuss whether there are any baseline expectations that grad students can count on if their work is patented, etc.  One project that I&#8217;ve been developing with my PI for two years (mouse breedings/homemade protein production/vaccinations) may have finally generated a novel gene product that would be utilized by my PI in a clinial trial.  Given that he already has a few previous patents, I&#8217;m guessing that he would move to patent this discovery as well.  If we are indeed so lucky, I would hope to be included as a partial owner/stakeholder.  Really, though, I have no idea what to expect.  Given all the leg-work, troubleshooting, and hundreds of hours contributed from my end (with zero contriubtions from other grad students, post-docs, or technicians), it would be hard to see this whisked away from me.  Your entry on work-sharing vs. author-sharing was funny, but it left me wondering - do graduate students have rights beyond the good graces of their PI?  Are there academic or, dare I say, legal precedents for conflicts over ownership?  My worst fear is that the academic hierarchy has jurisdiction to crush those on the bottom rung&#8230;.<br />
(Does this qualify as the record longest post on your blog?)</p>
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		<title>By: medaholic</title>
		<link>http://www.mudphudder.com/2008/12/season-of-giving-comes-to-a-close/comment-page-1/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>medaholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As they say, academia is a contact sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As they say, academia is a contact sport.</p>
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		<title>By: Grand Rounds for January 6th: Profit in medicine and other cool stuff! at edwinleap.com</title>
		<link>http://www.mudphudder.com/2008/12/season-of-giving-comes-to-a-close/comment-page-1/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>Grand Rounds for January 6th: Profit in medicine and other cool stuff! at edwinleap.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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